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		<title>Open Offer to Taste My (Malcolm&#039;s) 1982 Vieux Chateau Certan</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tweet I consider myself &#8220;wine fortunate&#8221;, acquiring wine and friends over the years that fuel hedonistic and intellectual wine passions.  One of those friends is Malcolm.  I don&#8217;t see Malcolm regularly, yet each year for the last 15 we manage to find opportunities to get really silly and drink ridiculously excellent wine together.  It was great to [...]]]></description>
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			</div><div style="clear:both"></div><div style="padding-bottom:4px;"></div><p><a href="http://wine-zag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/vieux-chateau-certan1.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2880" title="vieux chateau certan" src="http://wine-zag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/vieux-chateau-certan1.jpg" alt="" width="177" height="266" /></a>I consider myself &#8220;wine fortunate&#8221;, acquiring wine and friends over the years that fuel hedonistic and intellectual wine passions.  One of those friends is Malcolm.  I don&#8217;t see Malcolm regularly, yet each year for the last 15 we manage to find opportunities to get really silly and drink ridiculously excellent wine together.  It was great to see Malcolm at the tasting last Saturday night at my home, and his token gift of appreciation was no less thrilling; a bottle of 1982 Vieux Chateau Certan.  Don&#8217;t your friends stop in for a cup of coffee or a quick visit and leave behind some 1982 Bordeaux as well?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the story.  Living less than two miles from my home, Malcolm is mostly a full-time musician, serious student of the keyboard, and accomplished player.  Malcolm&#8217;s wife, Kathleen, is a talented painter and supporter of the arts in Boston, helping to pioneer the Thayer Street/SOWA district in Boston&#8217;s South End in 2001 by co-founding the OHT Gallery (recently morphed to <a target="_blank" href="http://www.ohtprojects.com/">OHT Projects </a>).  I&#8217;m a media executive, my wife&#8217;s a physician, Malcolm&#8217;s summer home south and east of Boston, and mine on a northern lake in New Hampshire.  His daughter and my son were close friends and appreciated each others&#8217; inquiring minds until the age of eight when they enrolled in separate schools and made new friends.  So, Malcolm and I have to force our worlds to meet, and when we do, we celebrate in a big way with wines that never escape our memories.</p>
<p>When Malcolm was younger in the early to mid-eighties, he worked in a Boston wine shop and stashed away a serious Bordeaux, Rhone, and Alsace collection.  Without a formal cellar of his own back then, he squirreled away his wines around town, and one of those places was his mother&#8217;s home, lacking any of the usual temperature and humidity characteristics associated with reliable cellaring .  As such, Malcolm never trusts his wines&#8217;<a href="http://wine-zag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/vieux-chateau-certan-case.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2893" title="vieux chateau certan case" src="http://wine-zag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/vieux-chateau-certan-case.jpg?w=300" alt="" width="300" height="200" /></a> fitness and has a need to constantly test their progress.  As a willing and lucky lab partner, I can attest that most of Malcolm&#8217;s wines are progressing just fine in his now state of the art cellar he constructed years ago.</p>
<p>Which brings us back to the 1982 Vieux Chateau Certan with an offer and retrospective look at Robert Parker&#8217;s fickle opinions of the wine spanning 16 years of bottle life.  <strong><span style="color: #800080;">First; my offer.  I am happy to open this wine with any reader that would like to taste it with me.  As fair trade, I am requesting the venue be </span></strong><a target="_blank" href="http://elevenmadisonpark.com/"><strong><span style="color: #800080;">Eleven Madison Park in New York City</span></strong></a><span style="color: #800080;"><strong>, on a mutually acceptable date, where I will gladly pay the corkage fee and supply the wine in exchange for you hosting the meal.</strong> </span> Please don&#8217;t interpret the EMP venue suggestion as anything other than an interest in getting back to a favorite top spot to eat and drink in New York (which you can read <a target="_blank" href="http://winezag.wordpress.com/2009/06/04/more-eleven-madison-park/">here in a past WineZag post</a>).  I have another bottle of the same wine in case you are interested in expanding the group a bit larger or the response to this offer is robust.  Remember, Malcolm does not trust his cellaring, but I can vouch that he has less to worry about than his innate cellaring paranoia allows.  Just leave a comment here, or contact me at <a target="_blank" href="mailto:awjapko@gmail.com">awjapko@gmail.com</a>, if you are interested.  Depending on response, I will either be drinking this alone in my cellar with a slice of pizza or trying to figure out how to arrange a common date for up to eight people at Eleven Madison Park.</p>
<p><a href="http://wine-zag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/vieux-chateau-certan2.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2896" title="vieux  chateau certan" src="http://wine-zag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/vieux-chateau-certan2.jpg" alt="" width="225" height="182" /></a>There is something interesting going on with this wine.  It is either the wine or the continual complexities of tasting and reviewing a product that evolves and changes over years in a bottle, and minutes in a glass.  Robert Parker recently revisited some 1982 Bordeaux back in June 2009, and he rated the Vieux Chateau Certan 93 points saying this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Not yet fully mature, this wine reveals some amber at the edge as well as a complex, intoxicating nose of cedar, licorice, spice box, black currants, and cherries. While medium to full-bodied with sweet tannins, and beautiful concentration, it appears to me that more recent vintages are stronger and denser than the 1982. Nevertheless, it is a beauty that can be drunk now and over the next 15-16 years. Release price: ($175.00/case) (current price: $223-$290/bottle)</p></blockquote>
<p>Not yet fully mature?  Well, what about these past review snippets by Parker?  He reviewed the wine in 1993  giving the wine 89 points and writing:</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">I have rated this wine higher, but recently it is revealing considerable amber and rust at the edge, and evolving rapidly. It exhibits a sweet, cedary, jammy nose with a meaty, soy sauce component. Fleshy and full-bodied, with low acidity, copious amounts of ripe, rich fruit, and high alcohol in the satiny smooth finish, this fully mature, chewy wine is capable of lasting 10-15 more years.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">And then in the third edition of his Bordeaux book in 1998 he rated the wine 88 points and said:</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Regular 750 ml. formats are soft and herbaceous, wonderfully delicious and round, but not that complex or concentrated&#8230;. The color is a healthy dark ruby with some amber.  The wine possesses a peppery, herb, olive, and vanillin-scented nose, and jammy black cherry fruit. Lush and succulent, with medium to full body, excellent concentration, and a low acid finish with no real tannin, this is a fully mature wine that begs to be drunk over the next 7-8 years.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">And in June of 2000 Parker bumped his rating back up to 89 points saying:</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">An herbaceous, cedary, spice, and fruitcake-scented bouquet jumps from the glass of this medium ruby/garnet-colored wine. More complex aromatically than on the palate, this supple, velvety-textured effort exhibits abundant glycerin, an open-knit, expansive mouth-feel, but not the depth, power, or density of the vintage&#8217;s finest efforts. Fully mature, it requires consumption over the next 5-7 years.</p>
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<p>So in 1998 he gave the wine a sub 90-point rating and suggested not holding past 2005.  In 1998 the Wine Spectator gave the wine 91 points saying:</p>
<blockquote><p>A lovely and harmonious red. Beautiful cherry, floral and berry character. Full-bodied, with velvety tannins and long, focused berry and milk chocolate flavors. Drink now or hold.&#8211;1982 Bordeaux horizontal</p></blockquote>
<p>With Parker bumping his rating based on a 2009  tasting all the way to 93 points and giving the wine a life extension until 2025, are you now as curious as I am?  Just leave a comment here or send me an email at <a target="_blank" href="mailto:awjapko@gmail.com">awjapko@gmail.com</a> and let&#8217;s find out together at Eleven Madsion Park, and maybe I can even convince Malcolm to join us.</p>
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		<title>Putting Simple Wines to Tests of Age and Environment</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tweet Ever wonder what would happen subjecting simple wines, intended for immediate drinking pleasure, to extended aging terms in unsuitable environments?  It&#8217;s a risky wager and not a fully recommended strategy, even with careful wine selection and pristine cellaring conditions.  While vinous curiosity has driven some oddball aging decisions in the hopes of padding my stash with more bottles showing advanced flavor and aroma nuances, (you can read more about when wine is ready to drink in this post at [...]]]></description>
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			</div><div style="clear:both"></div><div style="padding-bottom:4px;"></div><p>Ever wonder what would happen subjecting simple wines, intended for immediate drinking pleasure, to extended aging terms in unsuitable environments?  It&#8217;s a risky wager and not a fully recommended strategy, even with careful wine selection and pristine cellaring conditions.  While vinous curiosity has driven some oddball aging decisions in the hopes of padding my stash with more bottles showing advanced flavor and aroma nuances, (you can read more about when wine is ready to drink in <a target="_blank" href="http://palatepress.com/2009/10/when-is-wine-ready/">this post</a> at Palate Press), I  would never have purposely put in motion the unplanned experiment I wrapped up visiting my parents in West Palm Beach, FL this past weekend.</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.fatherandsonmovingne.com/images/boston_florida.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-2771 alignright" title="boston to florida" src="http://wine-zag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/boston-to-florida.jpg" alt="" width="114" height="110" /></a>My folks live in Florida and I visit them once a year from Boston.  Bring the grandkids down, eat some of Mom&#8217;s Jewish soul food, snag a few authentic bagels, hack away at a round of rusty winter golf, hugs, kisses, and home.  When we all lived in Brooklyn together in the 60s and early 70s, we drank Manishewitz at Passover.  Fine wine was not part of the ethnic cultural fabric we were weaving in Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn.  But now, Mom and Dad enjoy when I bring home a decent bottle or two from a trip to the Winn Dixie (slim pickings as you will soon see).  Nothing special, just a drinkable quaff.  Somehow, I always buy one too many bottles forgetting that a glass or two is all Mom and Dad are looking for.</p>
<p>So, I guess I shouldn&#8217;t have been surprised when I opened their sideboard cabinet to find four bottles sitting around from earlier visits including <strong>1999 Ravenswood Lodi Zinfandel, 2001 Columbia Crest Semillon/Chardonnay, 2001 Columbia Crest Chardonnay, and 2002 Mouton Cadet White</strong>.  Nothing too exciting, but a good 9-10 years of bottle age to check out!  It was time to open these wines to see if we were in for a surprise, or more predictably, be pouring them down the drain.</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.blognow.com.au/uploads/d/dlphilipson/93759.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-2766 alignleft" title="Wine Storage Conditions" src="http://wine-zag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/wine-storage-conditions.jpg?w=300" alt="" width="240" height="180" /></a>I remember buying the Ravenswood and the Columbia Crest wines, but not the Mouton Cadet.  This cabinet was not temperature controlled, and who knows what kind of temperature or humidity swings occur in my parent&#8217;s Florida home when air conditioning fails, storms roll through, and periods of travel interrupt steady cool air.</p>
<p>Here were the results:</p>
<p>1)<strong>1999 Ravenswood<em> Lodi</em> Zinfandel</strong>:  This wine received low ninety point scores on release from the Wine Spectator and Wine Enthusiast.  I would have suspected that Ravenswood&#8217;s &#8220;No Wimpy Wine&#8221; approach would create the best shot at survival.  Maybe so, but the cork crumbled when disgorging.  The wine was totally oxidized, brown around the edges, all the fruit was missing, and alcohol and heat dominated.  My Dad actually liked it.   I think it reminded him of the cheap Schnapps that my grandfather would toast with.  Undrinkable.</p>
<p>2) <strong>2002 Mouton Cadet</strong>:  Rusty orange in color.  Trouble in evidence before even opening.  The wine, composed of Sauvignon Blanc and Semillon, was also completely oxidized.  But, the cork was in excellent shape and there was no leakage.  There were vegetal, raw mushroom, and medicinal aromas.  The wine smelled a bit like urine.  Undrinkable.<a href="http://wine-zag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/floridawines-0041.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-2774" title="floridawines 004" src="http://wine-zag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/floridawines-0041.jpg?w=300" alt="" width="300" height="224" /></a></p>
<p>3)<strong>2001 Columbia Crest Chardonnay</strong>:  The wine was a light, yellow, golden color.  Surprisingly bright and clear and still alive.  There were no advanced aromas in evidence on the nose, but a good waft of pears came through nicely.   The wine had solid structure, did not appear to be in decline AT ALL, and presented itself with a rich and full mouthfeel.  If I was told this wine released last year I would not doubt it.  Surprisingly drinkable and enjoyable, but not sure what was acheived in the aging process.  Not worth the wait, but battle tested.</p>
<p>4) <strong>2001 Columbia Crest Semillion/Chardonnay</strong>:  While the wine was certainly in decline, it had a honeyed, roasted chestnut advanced aroma that was quite pleasing and enjoyable.  The wine was starting to get a little flabby around the edges, but still had a very nice round and smooth mouthfeel.  It was fun to drink, offered the most acceptable advanced flavors of the entire bunch, but was flirting with the end of its life.  I was glad to taste it, and would enjoy it with the right kind of food, but it was on the wrong side of it&#8217;s life curve.</p>
<p>The experiment produced a 50% drinkability rate.  Of the wines that were still alive, one did not advance and simply clung to its original identity. The other did advance, took on some old wine characteristics, but was flirting with the end of its natural life.  How surprising that the two white wines from Washington State managed to survive and the old world fruit from Bordeaux did not.  The Zinfandel has to be disqualified from the test due to cork damage.</p>
<p>It was unplanned, but an interesting experiment.  In the right cellar conditions, the outcome could have been more interesting and the Zinfandel might have lived and who knows about the Mouton Cadet.  I am going to buy a case of mixed mass-produced wines of decent quality and stick them away in  my cellar for 10 years.  It will make for a fun evening down the line, there is very little to lose, and lots to discover.</p>
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